Vergecast hosts challenge initial rating for Apple's new dual-screen device

The Vergecast hosts believe the iPhone Duo deserved a different score had Apple marketed it as a tablet.

David and Nilay discussed the initial 7/10 review of the iPhone Duo on the latest episode of their podcast. They noted that the score was not their original intention and may not remain accurate over time. The hosts questioned the device's classification, arguing it should have been an iPad rather than an iPhone. They referenced a suggestion from John Gruber of Daring Fireball that the outer screen might be the worst iPhone ever made. The duo explored how the product perception would shift if it were simply called the iPad Duo.

The conversation extended to the device's future trajectory. The hosts acknowledged that the Duo will likely improve over time but debated whether it will ever become the phone for everyone. They examined how the dual-screen design impacts its identity in the market. The discussion highlighted the difficulty of assessing a major new idea applied to the most popular smartphone in history.

Beyond the Apple hardware debate, the episode covered the recent PHP cybersecurity flaw. The hosts analyzed the impact of this vulnerability on the web, AI, and the retail sector. They noted that retailers are now adjusting their strategies to interact with AI shopping agents, specifically Muse agents. The segment on web security was described as a response to a strange week for the internet.

Later segments included a critique of Brendan Carr and an upcoming reboot at Netflix. The hosts also addressed confusing news regarding Gemini. They closed the episode by reviewing recent stories on vibe-coding creators, AI math chaos, and the flying Tesla Roadster. Listeners can reach the show via the hotline at 866-VERGE11 or by email at vergecast@theverge.com.

Apple has not yet responded to the reclassification debate. The next episode of The Vergecast is scheduled for release next week.